Dave Eggers discusses Zeitoun
Kathy and Abdulrahman Zeitoun will attend
8 p.m. Fri., Nov. 6
The NOCCA Institute, 2800 Chartres St., 940-2900; www.noccainstitute.com
Tickets $10
In his nonfiction book, Zeitoun, Dave Eggers tells the story
of a hardworking Muslim-American family living in New Orleans and their
experience in the aftermath of the levee failures. Eggers also sees the
poor federal response as a reflection of George W. Bush-era values and
operations.
Abdulrahman Zeitoun, a Syrian American, owned a painting
and contracting company as well as several properties in the city, and
he decided to stay when Hurricane Katrina bore down on New Orleans in
August 2005. His wife Kathy, a Muslim convert originally from Baton
Rouge, packed up her kids and evacuated to her hometown. After the
levees breached, Zeitoun spent his days paddling through the flooded
part of Uptown rescuing neighbors and strangers alike.
In early September, a group of unidentified police and
soldiers arrested Zeitoun and two friends and transported them to Camp
Greyhound, a temporary jail located outside of the New Orleans Union
Passenger Terminal. He was thrown into a cell but never charged.
Zeitoun and the others begged to make a phone call. "Phones don't
work," a guard told them. "You guys are terrorists. You're
Taliban."
With no word from her husband for more than a week and
an ongoing barrage of media reports describing New Orleans as a war
zone, Kathy faced a possible future as a single mother. At the same
time, Zeitoun was trying to survive his prison nightmare and get word
to his wife that he was alive.
Eggers is best known for his memoir, A Heartbreaking
Work of Staggering Genius, and he also co-authored the script for
Where the Wild Things Are, but returned to his journalistic
roots for this book. He attempts to "disappear completely in terms of
authorial voice," he says, and strictly report the events through the
eyes of the Zeitouns. He succeeds, and Zeitoun is a vital book
in the growing library of what really occurred when the levees broke in
New Orleans.
Eggers' publishing company, McSweeney's,
published the book, and proceeds benefit the Zeitoun Foundation, which
will provide funds to a number of local nonprofit organizations. In an
interview with Gambit, Eggers discusses the government's lack of
a response plan to the crisis and how authorities viewed the manmade
disaster and its survivors.
You first heard about the Zeitouns through your nonprofit book
series Voice of Witness, which chronicles
individual stories of human rights abuses. Most Americans don't think
about human rights abuses when it comes to Hurricane Katrina. Should
they?
It depends on their level of information, and I guess
their opinion on the competency of the government — local, state
and national — in the wake of the storm. I think that slowly but
surely information about some of the private contractors that were in
town, some of the abuses from the police, too, and even some of the
soldiers, all of these things have been trickling out. What happened to
the Zeitouns is one of hundreds of stories that need to be told, and
some of them have been told by your paper and The
Times-Picayune. For me, Voices From The Storm, our book of
oral histories, was eye-opening because I wasn't aware of any of these
things ... these first-person accounts of grandmothers having guns
pointed at their heads by unmarked soldiers and people from private
contractors. There was such an array of human rights abuses, whether
passive or active, and Abdulraham Zeitoun was just one of so many
stories.
When Zeitoun is arrested, he's brought to Camp Greyhound. The
jail was constructed after the storm and was a fairly extensive
project. What does this tell you about the government's priorities
after the levee failures?
I started doing a lot of research into [Camp Greyhound]
and it had been fairly well documented in those weeks after the
hurricane, but it wasn't widely known outside of New Orleans. (Zeitoun)
had figured out some math when he was locked up there about just how
quickly they had assembled this outdoor prison in the wake of the
storm. It has been confirmed that while people were dying in attics,
struggling to eat or find water, yearning for help on rooftops and the
government couldn't get anything right on a national level and was
still bungling in so many ways, at the same time, there was a very
efficient operation happening at the Greyhound Station. [Prisoners from
Dixon Correctional Institute] and trustees from Angola were bused down
along with a vast amount of materials to erect a very shiny and
well-built prison. That contrast struck me and it felt very emblematic
of Bush-era priorities, where it's command and control over any sort of
humanitarian concerns.
What prompted this collapse of the criminal justice system, where
people were arrested with little or no provocation, no investigations
were made and then suspects weren't allowed to contact anyone on the
outside?
It was very hard to have land lines working at
Greyhound, or so they say — and if we grant them that it would be
very difficult to make calls, but in lieu of that, there has to be
other systems in place. It also doesn't excuse the fact that after they
evacuated from Greyhound (to) Hunt (Correctional Facility in St.
Gabriel, La.), they were still not given phone calls. But there was a
lot of that left hand not knowing what the right hand was doing,
because once a prisoner was processed through Greyhound and sent to one
of the many longer-term prisons throughout the state, they were lost in
the system for weeks, if not months, when no one really knew where they
were. Records weren't being kept. Lawyers and human rights advocates
think that what was done was an evacuation via incarceration —
where they wanted to clear out the city, so anybody found within it was
accused of looting or some other trumped-up charge and thrown in
prison.
Before undertaking the book, how familiar were you with
Islam?
I grew up in Illinois and had no Muslim neighbors or
very few (Muslim) students in my school and college. Like a lot of
people, it was foreign to me. After 9/11, we as a country grew to know
more, or at least people in my generation, about Islam. I learned so
much during the process of writing the book, researching it and reading
the Quran in various editions and asking questions of Kathy. I was
careful not to assume much of the reader. That's why even explaining
that Islam is just a branch of one of Abraham's faiths, that Allah is
the same God that we recognize from the Bible and that some of these
same characters appear in the Quran and the Old Testament, is
surprising to people.
Zeitoun's account of the days in New Orleans
immediately following the levee breaches relates the eerie silence of
his surroundings, but little of the violent chaos reported by the
media. As a journalist, what do you think the media could have done
differently to better portray Hurricane Katrina and the levee
failures?
Obviously, there was a lot of reporting done without
checking facts, and — given the 24-hour news cycle and the
endless hunger to be first, or to present something new — there
was a lot of repeating of rumors and lies that greatly hurt response
and enforced a lot of stereotypes and did great damage to people who
had already suffered. Unfortunately, so much of that misinformation was
coming from officials like (former New Orleans Police Department
Superintendent Eddie) Compass and (former Orleans Parish District
Attorney Eddie) Jordan, and you can't blame (the media) for taking some
of these officials at their word.
This will be a difficult book for New Orleanians to read. Why
should they take the journey?
I would never urge it on anyone who would find it
difficult to read. Going back to my memoir, I have never read a book
about cancer. I can't do it. I have that kind of avoidance of subject
matter that is too painful for me. I've gotten so many notes and things
from New Orleanians who read (Zeitoun), and I've had so many
friends (from New Orleans) make sure it was as accurate as it could be.
So I guess it depends on the individual. I understand wholeheartedly if
someone doesn't feel like reliving it, but I do think it's one of what
I hope becomes a growing mosaic of voices we hear from the city, from
every neighborhood and every different experience. There are hundreds
of books that I hope appear of stories that haven't been told yet.
Every person I meet tells me a story.
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